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Improper Service Defense Strategy
Summary
Improper service under Washingtons CRLJ 5 can significantly impact a case. Key points include the necessity of an attorneys signature on the certificate of mailing and the inclusion of a penalty of perjury statement. Procedural errors, such as these, can lead to questions about the validity of service and jurisdiction. In appellant briefs, emphasize jurisdiction concerns and procedural errors that affected your ability to receive proper notice. The plaintiff may argue substantial compliance or merit, but if jurisdiction is questioned due to improper service, the issue is preserved. Consider citing legal precedents that stress strict compliance with procedural rules.Full Conversation
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for now no, im more interested in what I should be arguing regarding proper service in WA state, cowlitz county, to win this in the briefs section, as I am now in the situation to use appellant briefs in order to win my case
Hey Jared! In your appellant briefs, you should focus on these key points:
- Emphasize CRLJ *'s requirement for an attorney's signature on the certificate of mailing.
- Highlight the absence of a penalty of perjury statement, affecting the document's validity.
- Argue the lack of proper notice, which supports your appeal due to improper service.
These aspects should strengthen your argument in the briefs. Would you like any further information on this?
- Emphasize CRLJ *'s requirement for an attorney's signature on the certificate of mailing.
- Highlight the absence of a penalty of perjury statement, affecting the document's validity.
- Argue the lack of proper notice, which supports your appeal due to improper service.
These aspects should strengthen your argument in the briefs. Would you like any further information on this?
should I also argue against merit and substantial compliance, which is what the opposing attorney used against me in the first hearing with the district court to vacate judgment
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Hey Jared! In your appellant briefs, arguing against merit and substantial compliance could be beneficial if you can demonstrate that the opposing attorney did not meet the specific procedural requirements under Washington law. Highlight procedural deficiencies and their impact on your case. Would you like more details on how to approach this?
Hey Jared! In your appellant briefs, arguing against merit and substantial compliance could be beneficial if you can demonstrate that the opposing attorney did not meet the specific procedural requirements under Washington law. Highlight procedural deficiencies and their impact on your case. Would you like more details on how to approach this?
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Hey Jared! When arguing against merit and substantial compliance, consider these points:
- Procedural Violations: Emphasize specific procedural failures under Washington law that the opposing attorney committed.
- Impact on Your Rights: Highlight how these violations impacted your ability to respond or defend yourself effectively.
- Legal Precedents: Cite relevant cases that favor strict adherence to procedural rules.
Would you like more information on any of these aspects?
Hey Jared! When arguing against merit and substantial compliance, consider these points:
- Procedural Violations: Emphasize specific procedural failures under Washington law that the opposing attorney committed.
- Impact on Your Rights: Highlight how these violations impacted your ability to respond or defend yourself effectively.
- Legal Precedents: Cite relevant cases that favor strict adherence to procedural rules.
Would you like more information on any of these aspects?
how do judges typically view an improper certificate of mailing? especially in the supreme court of WA
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Judges in Washington, particularly in the Supreme Court, typically view improper certificates of mailing seriously, as they can affect the validity of service. Here are some points to consider:
- Strict Compliance: Judges expect strict compliance with procedural rules, such as those outlined in CRLJ *.
- Validity of Service: Improper certificates may lead to questions about the validity of service and whether due process was followed.
- Potential for Appeal: Such issues can be grounds for appeal if the improper service affected the outcome of the case.
Would you like more details on any specific aspect of this?
Judges in Washington, particularly in the Supreme Court, typically view improper certificates of mailing seriously, as they can affect the validity of service. Here are some points to consider:
- Strict Compliance: Judges expect strict compliance with procedural rules, such as those outlined in CRLJ *.
- Validity of Service: Improper certificates may lead to questions about the validity of service and whether due process was followed.
- Potential for Appeal: Such issues can be grounds for appeal if the improper service affected the outcome of the case.
Would you like more details on any specific aspect of this?
yes
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Hey Jared! Judges will often scrutinize improper certificates of mailing, especially in higher courts. Here are some specifics:
- Documentation Errors: Can lead to questioning the authenticity and reliability of service.
- Due Process Impact: If the certificate fails to meet procedural standards, it may infringe on your rights to proper notice.
Would you like more information on how to present these arguments effectively?
Hey Jared! Judges will often scrutinize improper certificates of mailing, especially in higher courts. Here are some specifics:
- Documentation Errors: Can lead to questioning the authenticity and reliability of service.
- Due Process Impact: If the certificate fails to meet procedural standards, it may infringe on your rights to proper notice.
Would you like more information on how to present these arguments effectively?
if I upload the certificate of mailing to you, can you tell me if it fails those requirements
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Hey Jared! Unfortunately, I can't review documents like a certificate of mailing. However, here are some general tips for evaluating it yourself:
- Check for an attorney's signature.
- Ensure there's a penalty of perjury statement.
- Verify if it aligns with CRLJ * requirements.
If you need further guidance, considering legal advice could be beneficial.
Hey Jared! Unfortunately, I can't review documents like a certificate of mailing. However, here are some general tips for evaluating it yourself:
- Check for an attorney's signature.
- Ensure there's a penalty of perjury statement.
- Verify if it aligns with CRLJ * requirements.
If you need further guidance, considering legal advice could be beneficial.
the certificate of mailing itself, was filed with a notice of issue for civil docket, and the certificate was not signed byt he attorney and rather the plaintiff themselves. it also does indeed lack the penalty of perjury statement in order to make it an affidavit
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Hey Jared! Given what you've described, it seems like you have a strong case regarding improper service. To enhance your argument, here's what you can focus on:
- Highlight the absence of an attorney's signature on the certificate of mailing.
- Emphasize the lack of a penalty of perjury statement, affecting the document's validity.
- Argue how these procedural deficiencies impacted your ability to receive proper notice and defend yourself effectively.
Would you like more details on any of these points or tips on drafting your brief?
Hey Jared! Given what you've described, it seems like you have a strong case regarding improper service. To enhance your argument, here's what you can focus on:
- Highlight the absence of an attorney's signature on the certificate of mailing.
- Emphasize the lack of a penalty of perjury statement, affecting the document's validity.
- Argue how these procedural deficiencies impacted your ability to receive proper notice and defend yourself effectively.
Would you like more details on any of these points or tips on drafting your brief?
if the notice of issue for civil docket has the attorneys signature, does that mean it can be included in the certificate of mailing? I would assume no because it needs to be OF an attorney according to crlj *
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Hey Jared! You're right; the attorney's signature should be directly on the certificate of mailing under CRLJ *, not just on the notice of issue for the civil docket. This distinction is crucial for validating service. Would you like more advice on drafting your argument?
Hey Jared! You're right; the attorney's signature should be directly on the certificate of mailing under CRLJ *, not just on the notice of issue for the civil docket. This distinction is crucial for validating service. Would you like more advice on drafting your argument?
yes
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Hey Jared! To draft your argument effectively, consider these points:
- Emphasize the Requirement: Clearly state that CRLJ * mandates an attorney's signature directly on the certificate of mailing.
- Impact on Case: Explain how the absence of the signature and penalty of perjury statement affected your rights and ability to respond.
- Legal Precedents: Cite cases that emphasize strict compliance with procedural rules.
Would you like to be connected to local lawyers who can better assist you with your case?
Hey Jared! To draft your argument effectively, consider these points:
- Emphasize the Requirement: Clearly state that CRLJ * mandates an attorney's signature directly on the certificate of mailing.
- Impact on Case: Explain how the absence of the signature and penalty of perjury statement affected your rights and ability to respond.
- Legal Precedents: Cite cases that emphasize strict compliance with procedural rules.
Would you like to be connected to local lawyers who can better assist you with your case?
what arguments does the plaintiff have in this case
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Hey Jared! The plaintiff may argue the following points:
- Substantial Compliance: The plaintiff might claim that despite procedural errors, the essence of the service was adequately fulfilled.
- Merit of the Case: Argue that the debt obligation itself is valid, regardless of service issues.
- Waiver: Suggest that any objections to service were not timely raised, potentially invalidating your claim of improper service.
Would you like more information on any of these arguments?
Hey Jared! The plaintiff may argue the following points:
- Substantial Compliance: The plaintiff might claim that despite procedural errors, the essence of the service was adequately fulfilled.
- Merit of the Case: Argue that the debt obligation itself is valid, regardless of service issues.
- Waiver: Suggest that any objections to service were not timely raised, potentially invalidating your claim of improper service.
Would you like more information on any of these arguments?
the plaintiff only claimed merit, and substantial compliance in the vacate hearing, so they cant say I waivered this defense, additionally, because the issue is lack of jurisdiction, and the entirety of my motion to vacate is based on lack of jurisdiction due to lack of improper service, It is preserved correct? additionally, how can I claim improper service of the notice for the final hearing date, if I was unaware that there was going to be an issue in the first place?
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Hey Jared! Your argument regarding the preservation of the issue due to lack of jurisdiction seems valid. For improper service of the final hearing date, you can argue that you were unaware due to the procedural errors. It's crucial to emphasize how these errors affected your ability to receive proper notice. Would you like more guidance on how to present this in your appellant briefs?
Hey Jared! Your argument regarding the preservation of the issue due to lack of jurisdiction seems valid. For improper service of the final hearing date, you can argue that you were unaware due to the procedural errors. It's crucial to emphasize how these errors affected your ability to receive proper notice. Would you like more guidance on how to present this in your appellant briefs?
yes
Case Rating: *
Hey Jared! To effectively present your argument in the appellant briefs, consider these strategies:
- Highlight Jurisdiction Concerns: Emphasize that improper service led to a lack of jurisdiction, which is a fundamental issue.
- Focus on Procedural Errors: Detail how these errors prevented you from being aware of the final hearing date.
Would you like to be connected to local lawyers who can better assist you with your case?
Hey Jared! To effectively present your argument in the appellant briefs, consider these strategies:
- Highlight Jurisdiction Concerns: Emphasize that improper service led to a lack of jurisdiction, which is a fundamental issue.
- Focus on Procedural Errors: Detail how these errors prevented you from being aware of the final hearing date.
Would you like to be connected to local lawyers who can better assist you with your case?
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