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Fraudulent Vehicle Sale Resolution
Summary
If you purchased a vehicle that was fraudulently misrepresented and cannot locate the seller, consider reporting the fraud to the police and filing a complaint with the online marketplace. You can also file a claim with the Civil Resolution Tribunal (CRT) and explore serving court papers through public notices. Skip tracing services may help locate the seller, and costs vary based on the complexity of the case. Contact the BC Ombudsperson for complaints about ICBCs handling of your case. Legal advice clinics can provide further guidance.Full Conversation
I need some advice
Hi ****! I’d be happy to help. Could you please provide more details about the legal issue you’re facing? This will help me give you the most accurate information.
An East Indian sold me a vehile that turns out to be unroad worthy. This guy sprated foam in the vehicle frame that had rusted right through then painte it to hide it from me. I want to take him to civial reolution tribunial for a full refund but I can not find him. The address he put on the vehiles registration paper is false, he does not live there. I had all my conversations with him online on Marketplace. He change his name and removed all conversations we had together. I don't want to hire a private investigator as I have already lost $*,* on the vehicle. My question is how can I find this guy?
****, I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Since the seller's information is false, here are some steps you can take:
- Report the fraud to the police, providing all available information.
- Contact ICBC (Insurance Corporation of British Columbia) to see if they can assist with information related to the vehicle registration.
- File a complaint with the online marketplace where the transaction occurred.
Have you already reported the issue to the police or tried contacting ICBC?
- Report the fraud to the police, providing all available information.
- Contact ICBC (Insurance Corporation of British Columbia) to see if they can assist with information related to the vehicle registration.
- File a complaint with the online marketplace where the transaction occurred.
Have you already reported the issue to the police or tried contacting ICBC?
Ues, the police said they can do nothing and ICBC said due to privacy laws they cannot help me either
****, I'm sorry you're facing this. Here are a few other options you can consider:
- Civil Resolution Tribunal (CRT): You can still file a claim with the CRT. They might provide guidance on proceeding without knowing the seller's exact location.
- Small Claims Court: You could file a lawsuit in small claims court, although you may face challenges without the seller's location.
- Online Marketplace: Continue pressing the online marketplace for any assistance.
Would you like more information on how to file a claim with the CRT or other steps you can take?
- Civil Resolution Tribunal (CRT): You can still file a claim with the CRT. They might provide guidance on proceeding without knowing the seller's exact location.
- Small Claims Court: You could file a lawsuit in small claims court, although you may face challenges without the seller's location.
- Online Marketplace: Continue pressing the online marketplace for any assistance.
Would you like more information on how to file a claim with the CRT or other steps you can take?
I have already filed with CRT and have a claim but nothing can move forward until I can serve him his court [a[ers
****, since you've already filed with the CRT and need to serve court papers, you might consider the following options:
- Public Notices: Some jurisdictions allow for serving through public notices if the individual cannot be located. Check with CRT for this possibility.
- Skip Tracing Services: These services specialize in locating individuals and may be less costly than a private investigator.
Have you explored the option of public notices with the CRT?
- Public Notices: Some jurisdictions allow for serving through public notices if the individual cannot be located. Check with CRT for this possibility.
- Skip Tracing Services: These services specialize in locating individuals and may be less costly than a private investigator.
Have you explored the option of public notices with the CRT?
No I have not
****, you should check with the Civil Resolution Tribunal (CRT) if you can serve the seller through public notices due to not being able to locate him.
Would you like more information on how to proceed with this option?
Would you like more information on how to proceed with this option?
yes please
****, serving through public notices can be a useful option when traditional methods fail. Here’s a quick guide on how to proceed:
- Contact the CRT: Inform them of your situation and ask if serving through public notices is permissible.
- Follow CRT Instructions: The CRT will provide guidelines on how to publish the notice.
Would you like help with any other aspect of your case?
- Contact the CRT: Inform them of your situation and ask if serving through public notices is permissible.
- Follow CRT Instructions: The CRT will provide guidelines on how to publish the notice.
Would you like help with any other aspect of your case?
How did he get away wih providing a false address with ICBC
****, providing a false address to ICBC is illegal. The seller may have used fraudulent means to bypass verification processes. You might want to report this to ICBC again, emphasizing the fraudulent aspect of the address.
Would you like to know more about potential legal consequences for the seller?
Would you like to know more about potential legal consequences for the seller?
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****, providing false information to ICBC is a serious offense. Here are some potential legal consequences for the seller:
- Fines: The seller could face significant fines for fraud and providing false information.
- Criminal Charges: Fraudulent activity can result in criminal charges, which may include imprisonment.
- Vehicle Seizure: The vehicle may be seized if it's proven to be involved in fraudulent activities.
Would you like more details on how to report this again to ICBC or any other related questions?
- Fines: The seller could face significant fines for fraud and providing false information.
- Criminal Charges: Fraudulent activity can result in criminal charges, which may include imprisonment.
- Vehicle Seizure: The vehicle may be seized if it's proven to be involved in fraudulent activities.
Would you like more details on how to report this again to ICBC or any other related questions?
How much do skip tracer cost
Skip tracing costs can vary widely, depending on the complexity of the case and the provider. Here are some general price ranges:
- Basic skip tracing: $*-$*
- Comprehensive skip tracing: $*-$*
- Specialized services: Over $*
Would you like more information on finding a reliable skip tracing service or other options?
- Basic skip tracing: $*-$*
- Comprehensive skip tracing: $*-$*
- Specialized services: Over $*
Would you like more information on finding a reliable skip tracing service or other options?
sure
****, here’s some information to help you find a reliable skip tracing service:
- Research: Look for reviews and testimonials online.
- Ask for Referrals: If you know any lawyers or legal professionals, they might have recommendations.
- Verify Credentials: Ensure the service is licensed and reputable.
Would you like assistance with anything else?
- Research: Look for reviews and testimonials online.
- Ask for Referrals: If you know any lawyers or legal professionals, they might have recommendations.
- Verify Credentials: Ensure the service is licensed and reputable.
Would you like assistance with anything else?
how are they able to find someone if I cant
Skip tracers use a variety of methods and databases unavailable to the public, such as:
- Access to proprietary databases
- Specialized software tools
- Legal knowledge of how to find people
- Networking with other professionals in the field
Would you like more information on the types of data they access or how to choose a good skip tracer?
- Access to proprietary databases
- Specialized software tools
- Legal knowledge of how to find people
- Networking with other professionals in the field
Would you like more information on the types of data they access or how to choose a good skip tracer?
how do they access data that we cant
Skip tracers access data that the public often can't through:
- Proprietary databases
- Specialized software tools
- Legal channels to access protected information
- Professional networks
Each of these resources is designed to locate individuals effectively. Would you like to learn more about the specific techniques they use?
- Proprietary databases
- Specialized software tools
- Legal channels to access protected information
- Professional networks
Each of these resources is designed to locate individuals effectively. Would you like to learn more about the specific techniques they use?
yes
****, skip tracers use several specific techniques to locate individuals:
- Proprietary Databases: Access to specialized databases not available to the public.
- Software Tools: Advanced software that can track digital footprints.
- Legal Channels: Obtaining information through legal means like court records.
- Professional Networks: Collaborating with other professionals to gather information.
Would you like help finding a particular skip tracing service or more details on one of these techniques?
- Proprietary Databases: Access to specialized databases not available to the public.
- Software Tools: Advanced software that can track digital footprints.
- Legal Channels: Obtaining information through legal means like court records.
- Professional Networks: Collaborating with other professionals to gather information.
Would you like help finding a particular skip tracing service or more details on one of these techniques?
what are so software that traces peoples footprints
****, here are some software tools commonly used for tracing people's digital footprints:
- TLOxp: Provides data on individuals, businesses, and assets.
- Accurint: Offers comprehensive public records searches.
- SkipTrace Pro: Focuses on finding hard-to-locate individuals.
- LocatePLUS: Accesses extensive databases to track people.
Would you like more information on any of these tools or how to proceed with hiring a skip tracer?
- TLOxp: Provides data on individuals, businesses, and assets.
- Accurint: Offers comprehensive public records searches.
- SkipTrace Pro: Focuses on finding hard-to-locate individuals.
- LocatePLUS: Accesses extensive databases to track people.
Would you like more information on any of these tools or how to proceed with hiring a skip tracer?
are these in canada
Yes, many of these software tools and services are available in Canada, though their accessibility may depend on the specific provider and whether they comply with Canadian privacy laws. For example, TLOxp and Accurint are widely used, but you should verify if they are available and compliant with Canadian regulations.
Would you like more information on how to hire a skip tracer in Canada?
Would you like more information on how to hire a skip tracer in Canada?
I even though he broke the law, WTF understand why ICBC obviously knows his real address since he drives a car, but wont reveal it
****, I understand your frustration. ICBC is bound by privacy laws which restrict them from disclosing personal information.
Would you like advice on any other actions you can take to proceed with your case?
Would you like advice on any other actions you can take to proceed with your case?
yes
****, considering the situation, here are some additional steps you can take:
- Ombudsperson: Contact the BC Ombudsperson to file a complaint about ICBC’s handling of your case.
- Legal Advice Clinic: Seek free legal advice from community legal clinics.
Would you like more information on contacting the Ombudsperson or legal advice clinics?
- Ombudsperson: Contact the BC Ombudsperson to file a complaint about ICBC’s handling of your case.
- Legal Advice Clinic: Seek free legal advice from community legal clinics.
Would you like more information on contacting the Ombudsperson or legal advice clinics?
no thank u
****, it seems you’ve explored many avenues to resolve your issue. If you need further assistance or have any other questions in the future, feel free to reach out. All the best with your case!
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