Vcat Water Act Dispute

Summary

VCAT disputes under the Water Act often involve unreasonable water flow and compliance issues. Sections 16, 157, and 244 of the Water Act 1989 (Vic) are key to addressing such matters. Evidence like invoices, title searches, and compliance certificates can strengthen your case. If the respondent claims failure to mitigate damages, demonstrate reasonable steps taken and link damages to their actions. Counterarguments may include denying responsibility, challenging evidence, or claiming compliance. Focus on proving non-compliance and harm caused. If VCAT does not rule in your favor, appeals can be made to the Supreme Court of Victoria on legal grounds.

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I am the Applicant
Could you tell me more about your legal issue or what you need assistance with? For example, is this related to family law, a court application, or something else?
I applied to VCAT Water Act, unreasonable flow of water.
It sounds like you're dealing with a legal issue under Victoria's Water Act and have already lodged an application with VCAT about an unreasonable flow of water. Do you need help with preparing for the hearing, gathering evidence, or understanding the legal process?
The property I own is not Strata property title. My property is Stratum Title. I am not eligible for CAV or VLA.
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VCAT handles disputes under the Water Act, including unreasonable water flow issues. If your property is Stratum Title, it might change how responsibilities or liabilities are assessed.
Would you like guidance on preparing evidence or understanding the hearing process?
I paid the vcat application fee and injunction fee. The Respondent did not attend the first directions hearing.
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When the Respondent does not attend a VCAT hearing, the Tribunal can proceed in their absence or adjourn the matter. Did the Tribunal make any orders or provide directions at the first hearing?
The VCAT Members have behaved badly, not been impartial not been professional. Not followed VCAT policies and procedures. I emailed a complaint. I requested a new vcat member. I have new VCAT Member presiding. Moving fwd.
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If you now have a new VCAT Member presiding, it’s important to focus on presenting your case clearly. Ensure you have all relevant evidence prepared about the unreasonable water flow. Do you need help with organizing evidence, understanding VCAT procedures, or any related steps?
I applied for vcat form Directions Hearing for joinder and interlocutory
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A directions hearing for joinder and interlocutory applications can be complex. Focus on preparing clear arguments and relevant evidence.
Would you like guidance on how to present your joinder or interlocutory application effectively at the hearing?
Yes please
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To present your joinder or interlocutory application effectively:
- Clearly explain why the joinder is necessary (e.g., their involvement or responsibility in the issue).
- Provide evidence supporting the need for an interlocutory order.
- Organize documents logically and focus on key facts.
Do you need help drafting your arguments?
Yes please
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To draft strong arguments for your applications:
- Joinder: Clearly explain why the party should be joined (e.g., their legal interest or connection to the water issue).
- Interlocutory: State the urgency or harm if the order isn't granted and how it preserves justice.
- Include supporting documents.
Would you like detailed help drafting these arguments?
Yes please
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Drafting strong arguments is key to presenting your case effectively. To assist further, could you clarify:
- Who you are seeking to join to the case?
- The specific interlocutory orders you are requesting (e.g., temporary relief, injunctions, or other orders)?
The Respondent is DB. I applied in Dec *. DB the respondent sold his flat in Jan *. I took him to VCAT during settlement period before settlement period finalised. The new property owner is KA. Joinder to join the new owner
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To draft your joinder application:
- Joinder: Explain why KA (the new owner) should be joined. Argue their legal interest in the property and the water flow issue now that they own it.
- Provide evidence: Show the sale date, settlement timeline, and why KA's involvement is necessary for resolution.
Would you like guidance on structuring your written arguments?
I have provided to VCAT the three property title searches, subdivision, proprietor covenants, service agreement and the service company covenants.
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Your preparation so far is thorough with the documents provided to VCAT. To strengthen your argument:
- Emphasize KA's legal responsibility as the new owner for ongoing water issues.
- Link evidence (e.g., title searches) to show KA's ownership and interest in resolution.
- Structure your argument logically: introduction, evidence, and conclusion.
Do you need help drafting a written outline?
Yes please
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To draft a written outline:
- Introduction: State your application for joinder and its importance, linking it to the ongoing water issue.
- Evidence: Summarize title searches, covenants, and sale/settlement dates proving KA's ownership and responsibility.
- Conclusion: Emphasize why joinder ensures justice and resolution.
Would you like more detailed phrasing or an example?
I have submitted to VCAT evidence attachments including a contents page of those evidence attachments arleady mentinoned. Plus in addition to that document of evidence attached *) the respondent’s job at PPV Planning Panel Vic. he has prior knowledge. His email stating that to VCAT. *) the website PPV stating he is a member with the dates of his term. *) the qualifications, background and purpose of PPV and employees.
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Your evidence seems comprehensive and relevant, but it's crucial to ensure your arguments are structured to clearly connect the evidence to your application. Have you clearly explained in your submission how DB's role at PPV and his prior knowledge are directly relevant to the case?
The evidence of the respondent’s tax invoice from a handyman booked to work on a leaking shower and other bathroom issues. The illegal non compliant Builder’s report of those works with no compliance certificate from the handyman or builder cos a plumber can only carry out those bathroom worlds over $*. The handyman tax invoice is $3k. The bathroom and property are non compliant. There is awareness of deception in the property sale to the new owner.
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Your case appears to have significant legal and evidentiary complexities. To strengthen your position, focus on:
- Highlighting the non-compliance of the work (e.g., no plumber compliance certificate for $*,* work).
- Demonstrating any misleading or deceptive conduct during the property sale.
- Connecting DB’s knowledge/background to the alleged issues.
Would you like help drafting how to articulate these points clearly for VCAT?
Yes i have drafted why his prior knowledge qualifications and employment mean he was aware of compliance. How he chose to employ a handyman not plumber. How he chose to get a thing builder’s report with no compliance and the builder report is stating it cannot be used for section *.
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Your draft seems well-prepared and focuses on key issues like non-compliance and DB's awareness. Ensure your articulation includes:
- Clear links between DB's actions and the water issue.
- Emphasis on legal requirements (e.g., compliance certificates, Section * obligations).
- How this affects KA as the new owner.
Do you need assistance refining the wording or layout?
Yes please?
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To refine your wording and layout:
- Introduction: Summarize your application and why DB’s actions and KA’s joinder are crucial.
- Key Points: Clearly outline DB’s non-compliance, prior knowledge, and the impact on KA.
- Conclusion: Emphasize the need for justice and resolution via joinder.
Would you like specific phrasing?
I do not have copy of the section * of course.
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If you don’t have a copy of Section * (Vendor’s Statement), you can request it from the seller, their legal representative, or your conveyancer. Alternatively, check with Land Use Victoria for property records. Would you like guidance on how to formally request it?
Do i need the section *? Will it strengthen my case?
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The Section * (Vendor’s Statement) could strengthen your case by showing whether the seller disclosed relevant issues about the property, including compliance or defects. If the Section * omits required details, it may support arguments of non-compliance or deception. Do you want guidance on requesting it?
Yes please. How much will it cost me eg $*.* for the property title searches.
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To request a Section * (Vendor’s Statement), you would typically approach the seller’s legal representative or your conveyancer. The cost depends on how you obtain it:
- Seller's representative: May provide it for free.
- Land Use Victoria: Fees for title searches are around $*–$*.
Would you like help drafting a formal request?
I already obtained the Proprety title search. But can i obtain a copy of the Section * from LANDATA or someone else?
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You cannot obtain a Section * directly from LANDATA, as it is prepared by the seller for the buyer during a property sale.
- Request it from the seller’s legal representative or KA (new owner).
- Alternatively, ask your conveyancer or lawyer to assist.
Would you like help drafting a request to KA or their representative?
I am self represented. There are no lawyers involved since Dec * or Jan *. However, the respondent and new owner might each decide to now.
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You can draft a formal request to KA or their representative for a copy of the Section *. Politely explain that it is relevant to your VCAT proceedings regarding the property. Would you like me to draft an example request letter?
I guess it is up to KA the new owner to submit to VCAT her section * she received from the seller. During the next directions hearing do i request it but i need to put that in email. I think i might be off topic. Or will it help slightly to strengthen my matter. My point is he knew and intentionally did the deception. He booked a handyman not plumber for $3k works over $*, so nearly four times the price so a quote would have been provided. The non compliant shower base and works in bathroom means it must legally be removed. It is up to the new owner KA to work out if she want to pursue seeking compensation from the seller / the respondent cos VCAT will legally order her to pay for repairs.
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Requesting the Section * could help strengthen your case if it shows non-disclosure of defects or compliance issues by the respondent. During the next directions hearing, you can ask VCAT to order KA to produce it. Including this in an email to VCAT is appropriate. Would you like help drafting the email?
Yes please
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To draft your email to VCAT:
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Subject: Request for the Production of Section * Document
Dear [VCAT Case Officer/Member],
I am writing regarding my ongoing matter [insert case number] concerning the unreasonable flow of water.
I kindly request that the Tribunal direct the new property owner, KA, to produce the Section * (Vendor's Statement) she received from the respondent, DB, during the property sale. This document may provide evidence regarding any disclosure (or lack thereof) of compliance or defect issues.
Such information is directly relevant to my application, as it may further support my argument of non-compliance and intentional deception by the respondent.
Thank you for your consideration.
Kind regards,
[Your Full Name]
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Would you like me to adjust this further?
Would you like a copy of the timeline summary? How much text can i type into this chat box?
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The chat box can handle a substantial amount of text, as you've shown here. If you'd like to provide a timeline summary, feel free to paste it, and I can review or assist further.
* pages of text?
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The chat box can handle a significant amount of text, but for * full pages, it might be better to summarize key points. If you paste it, I can guide you on refining or structuring it. Would you like to share the full text or a condensed version?
Which water act laws and examples plus citations can i use please to help my matter?
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For your matter under Victoria’s Water Act, here are some key sections and examples that may help strengthen your case:
- Water Act * (Vic):
- Section *: Prohibits causing unreasonable flow of water onto another property.
- Section *: Outlines obligations for maintenance and repair to prevent water-related damage.
- Section *: Discusses liability for works affecting water flow.
- Examples to reference:
- Cases where breaches of Section * were established due to non-compliance with building or plumbing standards.
- Disputes involving the failure to disclose property defects during sale under Section *.
Would you like more guidance on applying these sections to your arguments?
Yes pelase
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To apply these sections to your arguments:
- Section *: Argue that the respondent’s actions (hiring a handyman instead of a plumber, resulting in non-compliance) caused unreasonable water flow onto your property.
- Section *: Highlight the respondent’s failure to repair or maintain the property properly, leading to ongoing issues.
- Section *: Emphasize how the respondent’s non-compliant works directly affected water flow and property conditions.
Do you need help drafting this into your submission?
Yes please
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To draft your submission:
- Section *:
"The respondent's hiring of a handyman instead of a licensed plumber resulted in non-compliant works, which caused unreasonable water flow onto my property, breaching Section * of the Water Act *."
- Section *:
"The respondent failed to maintain or repair the property to proper standards, violating Section * by neglecting their responsibility to prevent water-related damage."
- Section *:
"The respondent's unauthorized works, including the non-compliant bathroom repairs, altered water flow, causing ongoing harm to my property. This breaches Section * as these works directly impacted water management."
Would you like help refining the tone or structure further?
Yes
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To refine the tone and structure of your submission:
- Introduction: Briefly outline your claim and reference how the evidence supports breaches of Sections *, *, and *.
- Evidence: Connect specific facts (e.g., handyman invoice, non-compliance) to each cited breach.
- Conclusion: Emphasize the need for VCAT orders to resolve harm caused.
Would you like me to draft this in a full paragraph format?
Yes
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Here’s a refined draft in paragraph format:
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I am submitting this claim to address breaches of Sections *, *, and * of the Water Act * (Vic) caused by the respondent's actions. The respondent hired an unlicensed handyman instead of a licensed plumber to perform $*,* worth of bathroom repairs. These works were non-compliant, lacked a compliance certificate, and directly caused unreasonable water flow onto my property, breaching Section *. Furthermore, the respondent failed to maintain the property to proper standards, neglecting their obligations under Section * to prevent water-related damage. Additionally, the unauthorized works altered water flow and caused ongoing harm to my property, constituting a breach of Section *. I request that VCAT issue appropriate orders to address the harm caused and ensure compliance with the Water Act.
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Would you like further edits or additions?
If i have the law and citations on my side will the new residing vcat member make orders? If he doesn’t can i appeal? Could you please consider now the counter arguments from the respondent and how I can defence myself? Or do I focus on how the law and citations work to override his citation? Can a law citation override another?
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- If the law and citations are on your side, the VCAT member is likely to make orders in your favor, provided your evidence and arguments are clear and compelling.
- If the VCAT member does not make orders, you may appeal to the Supreme Court of Victoria, but only on a question of law.
- Counter arguments from the respondent might include denying responsibility, challenging your evidence, or claiming compliance. Focus on evidence proving non-compliance and linking their actions to harm caused.
- A law citation cannot directly "override" another; instead, the tribunal evaluates which law or provision applies best to the specific facts of your case. Focus on how your citations apply clearly and directly to the situation.
Would you like help preparing for possible counterarguments?
Please clarify this as you typed: Counter arguments from the respondent might include denying responsibility, challenging your evidence, or claiming compliance. Focus on evidence proving non-compliance and linking their actions to harm caused.
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The respondent might argue:
- Denying responsibility: Claiming they weren’t aware of the issues or that the problems arose after their involvement.
- Challenging evidence: Disputing the accuracy or relevance of your documents.
- Claiming compliance: Arguing they met legal or regulatory standards.
Your focus should be on:
- Evidence: Clearly proving non-compliance (e.g., lack of plumber certification, handyman invoice, defects).
- Harm caused: Linking their actions directly to the unreasonable water flow and property damage.
Would you like assistance drafting responses to these potential counterarguments?
Yes
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To address potential counterarguments:
- Denying Responsibility: Argue that the respondent’s actions directly caused the issue. Use evidence like the handyman invoice and non-compliant works to show their involvement.
- Challenging Evidence: Highlight the credibility and relevance of your documents (e.g., title searches, invoices, and legal provisions).
- Claiming Compliance: Point out specific breaches (e.g., no compliance certificate, non-compliant repairs).
Would you like help drafting a full response to one of these arguments?
Yes
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To draft a full response to one of these arguments, let's start with "Denying Responsibility." Here's a suggested draft:
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The respondent cannot deny responsibility as their actions directly caused the water-related issues. Evidence such as the $*,* handyman invoice shows they engaged unlicensed work, bypassing legal requirements like a compliance certificate. The non-compliant repairs directly contributed to the unreasonable water flow onto my property, making them accountable under Sections *, *, and * of the Water Act *.
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Would you like me to draft responses for the other counterarguments as well?
Yes
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To address the remaining counterarguments:
- Challenging Evidence:
"The respondent may dispute the relevance or accuracy of my evidence. However, the documents I’ve provided—such as title searches, handyman invoices, and subdivision covenants—are credible and directly relevant. They clearly establish non-compliance and link the respondent’s actions to the harm caused."
- Claiming Compliance:
"The respondent may argue compliance; however, the lack of a licensed plumber, missing compliance certificates, and the non-compliant builder’s report clearly demonstrate otherwise. These breaches violate legal standards and directly contravene Sections *, *, and * of the Water Act."
Would you like further refinements or assistance preparing for other scenarios?
Yes
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For further refinement:
- Add specific examples from your provided evidence to strengthen each response.
- Ensure your tone remains professional and focused on the facts and legal breaches.
- Be ready to address any additional claims they might raise, such as blaming external factors like weather or prior works.
Would you like help drafting more detailed responses for your hearing?
Respondent is claiming the applicant did Failure to mitigate for historic damages. But the applicant did reasonable steps
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The respondent’s claim of "failure to mitigate" means they argue you didn’t take reasonable steps to reduce or avoid the harm. To defend yourself:
- Show evidence of the reasonable steps you took (e.g., repairs, notices, or expert advice sought).
- Argue that the damages resulted from the respondent’s actions, not your failure to act.
Would you like help drafting a response to this specific claim?
Yes
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To respond to the claim of "failure to mitigate," you could draft something like this:
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The respondent's assertion that I failed to mitigate damages is unfounded. I took reasonable steps, including [insert specific actions, e.g., notifying the respondent of the issue, seeking professional advice, or attempting minor repairs]. Despite these efforts, the damages were caused by the respondent’s non-compliant works, as evidenced by [refer to evidence like invoices, reports, or correspondence]. The responsibility lies with the respondent, whose actions created the conditions leading to the harm.
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Would you like me to expand on this or adjust the wording?