Adverse Possession Property Dispute

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In Washington, adverse possession requires continuous, open, and notorious use for 10 years. A fence is not a legal boundary; property surveys hold more weight in court. If a neighbor claims adverse possession, present a formal survey and consult a real estate attorney. Document any property damage or trespassing, and consider filing a police report. Switching lawyers involves reviewing your contract, notifying your current lawyer, and hiring a new one.

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I have a retaining wall with fence set in * feet on my property. have used property behind fence for over 22 years. have gap on property to access behind fence. Neighbor claims adverse possession up to fence. land has property stakes for over 16 years denoting my property. question is do the neighbors have claims to my property?

In Washington, adverse possession requires the claimant to prove:
- Actual possession
- Open and notorious use
- Exclusive use
- Hostile use (without permission)
- Continuous use for 10 years
Given your long-term use and property stakes, you likely have a strong defense.
Have you ever given your neighbor permission to use the land?

not explicit permission but there is nothing there except ivy. Neighbor is new and is tacking on years that previous owners have been there for 30 years

In Washington, adverse possession requires continuous use for 10 years, among other factors. Since your neighbor is new and you're aware of the property stakes for over 16 years, you likely have a strong defense.
Have you discussed this issue with a real estate attorney yet?

yes, the attorney claims I do not have any claims

It's surprising that your attorney claims you don't have any claims, given the details you've shared. Washington's adverse possession laws are strict, and your long-term use and property stakes should play a significant role.
Have you considered consulting a different real estate attorney for a second opinion?

not yet, but would like too as they are hard to find. have I broken the continuous use of previous neighbors claimed use?

Given your situation, it seems you have a strong defense against the adverse possession claim. However, the specifics can be nuanced. Consulting another real estate attorney could offer a different perspective.
Have you gathered all the necessary documentation, like photos, maps, or logs of your use of the property?

yes. my other question is..is a fence always a boundary even if it was intended but people seem to view it as such

In Washington, while a fence can often be perceived as a boundary, it is not legally determinative. Property boundaries are defined by legal descriptions and surveys, not by the placement of fences. Your documented property stakes are more critical.
Have you had a formal property survey done recently?

that is in process

It sounds like you're taking the right steps by getting a formal property survey. This will provide clear evidence of your property boundaries, which is crucial.
Would you like any guidance on what to expect from the survey or next steps after you receive it?

yes

Great! Here's what to expect from the property survey and your next steps:
- Survey Results: The survey will provide a detailed map of your property boundaries.
- Review: Compare the survey results with your current property stakes and any disputed areas.
- Next Steps: If the survey confirms your boundaries, present it to your neighbor and, if needed, consult a real estate attorney for further action.
Would you like any tips on how to communicate these findings to your neighbor?

yes. do courts consider property surveys carry more weight or whether a fence has been there for a over 30 years

Courts generally place more weight on formal property surveys than on the existence of a fence, especially if the fence was not intended as the legal boundary. The survey provides an accurate depiction of property lines based on legal descriptions.
Would you like advice on how to present your survey findings to your neighbor?

yes

Sure! Here are some tips on how to present your survey findings to your neighbor:
- Be Polite and Professional: Begin the conversation calmly and respectfully.
- Share the Survey: Show them the official survey results and explain the legal boundaries.
- Discuss Openly: Explain that you are following legal procedures to clarify property boundaries.
- Offer Solutions: Suggest potential solutions, like moving the fence if necessary.
Would you like more detailed advice on any specific aspect of this process?

what if they still claim adverse possession based on fence placement

If your neighbor still claims adverse possession based on the fence placement, here are some steps you can take:
*. Present the Survey: Show the formal property survey to your neighbor.
*. Legal Documentation: Highlight the legal property stakes and your long-term use.
*. Consult an Attorney: Seek advice from a real estate attorney for potential legal actions.
*. Mediation: Consider mediation to resolve the dispute amicably before it escalates to court.
Have you discussed the survey findings with your neighbor yet?

yes. we have pointed out the markers and neighbors tore down my fence without my persmission and further enclosed their yard blocking off access to my property behind the fence

It sounds like you have a strong case, especially with the property survey and long-term use on your side.
In Washington, tearing down your fence without permission and blocking access to your property could be seen as trespassing and property damage.

Next Steps:
*. Document Everything: Take photos and gather any evidence of the torn-down fence and blocked access.
*. Police Report: Consider filing a police report for property damage and trespassing.
*. Legal Action: Consult a real estate attorney about filing a lawsuit to reclaim your property and seek damages.
Would you like more information on any of these steps?

yes

Sure, here's a bit more detail on each step:
*. Document Everything:
- Take clear photos of the torn-down fence and any blocked access.
- Keep records of all communications with your neighbor.
*. Police Report:
- Contact local law enforcement to file a report for trespassing and property damage.
- Provide them with your evidence and survey results.
*. Legal Action:
- Consult a real estate attorney with your documentation.
- Discuss potential lawsuits for property reclamation and damages.
Would you like assistance in finding a real estate attorney?

yes

~Finding a Real Estate Attorney in Washington
Here are some steps to help you find a qualified real estate attorney:
*. Online Legal Directories: Websites like Avvo (www.avvo.com) or Martindale-Hubbell (www.martindale.com) list attorneys by specialty and location.
*. Washington State Bar Association: Check their website for a referral service.
*. Local Recommendations: Ask friends or family for recommendations.
Would you like more detailed guidance on any of these steps?

yes. how to I switch lawyers

Switching lawyers in Washington is straightforward. Here’s what you need to do:
*. Review Your Contract: Check your agreement with your current lawyer for any termination clauses.
*. Notify Your Lawyer: Send a written notice to your current lawyer indicating your decision to terminate their services.
*. Collect Your File: Request your case file and any relevant documents from your current lawyer.
*. Hire a New Lawyer: Once you have a new attorney, they will handle the transition and notify the court if necessary.
Would you like help finding a new lawyer or guidance on drafting the termination notice?

It seems you have a strong case given the legal documentation, your long-term use of the property, and the recent actions by your neighbor.

Steps to Switch Lawyers:
*. Review Your Contract: Examine any termination clauses in your agreement with your current lawyer.
*. Notify Your Lawyer: Write a formal notice indicating your decision to terminate their services.
*. Collect Your File: Request all documents related to your case.
*. Hire a New Lawyer: Your new attorney will take over and handle any notifications to the court.
Would you like assistance drafting the termination notice?

yes

Sure, here’s a simple template you can use to draft your termination notice:
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[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, State, ZIP Code]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]
[Current Lawyer’s Name]
[Law Firm’s Name]
[Law Firm’s Address]
[City, State, ZIP Code]
Dear [Lawyer’s Name],
I am writing to formally notify you that I am terminating our attorney-client relationship effective immediately. Please forward all files and any other relevant documents pertaining to my case to me at the above address or to my new attorney, [New Attorney’s Name], at [New Attorney’s Address].
Thank you for your assistance to date.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
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Would you like help finding your new attorney?

no thank you. responses have been helpful

I'm glad to hear the responses have been helpful to you, Mel. If you have any more questions in the future or need further guidance, feel free to reach out. Best of luck with resolving your property issue!

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